How does "The Metamorphosis" tie into in "The Penal Colony," "The hunger artist," "The Judgment," or "Before the law?" What new themes are in it? Quote the text. Take 7 minutes.
In "The Metamorphosis" Gregor is dealing with a strange problem unique to him. He encounters his family and other people and they act according to their roles. Going along with the Oedipus complex. "his father gave him a strong push that was truly a liberating one, and, bleeding profusely, he sailed far into his room." The father cannot let his son take over his wife and must prove his dominance, which is actually good for Gregor because he now knows he must leave. In "In the Penal Colony" the condemned man is also in a peculiar situation, and there are people who want to torture and people who want to help him. The explorer is against it, but since he knows he doesn't have power he doesn't do anything.
Gregor is a roach in the story because all of his life, his parents have dictated what to do. Even now, when his father is chasing him back into his room, he doesn't stand up to him. Georg is the same way with his father: he can't stand up to him.
In this story, the penal colony, and the hunger artist, the main characters want to be understood. "His spirits were brightened by the aplomb and assurance with which their first few intructions had been carried out. He felt included in human society once again..." Gregor wants his family and his boss to not freak out about his current state. In the penal colony, the officer wants everyone to accept his practice. In the hunger artist, he wants people to understand what he is doing.
this links to "the judgment" because in both stories there is a link to the oedipus complex. In the judgment it is very clear because the whole story is centered around the father trying to assert his power over the son even after the mom has past away. the metamorphasis hints at it because the father and son fight over the mother but not to the extent of "the judgment". this story is also linked to most of the other stories because of the hierarchy that is evedent within his life. there is a hierarchy also in before the law because each gate keeper is progressivly more powerful.
I agree, and also I think that both of these stories relate to the theory about your feelings turning inward on yourself when you realize that they can't work for the society. You change yourself to make you fit in rather than trying to change everybody else.
"The Metamorphosis" is similar to "The Judgment," in that they both have parents that have a dark side, one that consists of not caring for their children's life or whatever he does.
The father in "The Metamorphosis" doesn't care much about the welfare of his son, but only that his son can work to pay off his own debt to the employer. Even after the mother says that Gregor is not well, the father still insists that Gregor open the door. " 'Well, can the gentleman go in to see you, now?' asked the impatient father " (17).
The father of Georg ("The Judgment") is so dry to him, that you could literally put a wet sponge in the room with him, and the sponge would loose moisture. When he walks into his father's room, they start to have a discussion about the windows, in which the father responds dryly. "But it's unbearably dark in here," he said to himself. "Yes, it is dark isn't it?" his father answered. "You shut the window, too?" "I like it better that way."
His father is shutting Georg out. The sunshine represents Georg, and the curtains represent actions that lead him to dislike his son.
"The Metamophosis" ties into the other Kafka stories we have read because they all have to do with being oppressed from society. In Metamorphosis Gregor says, "If I didn't hold myself back because of my parents, I would have quit long ago." To me this shows how he is really insignificant in his life. This relates to the hunger artist because I think that the parents also represent some kind of an audience, like the one that the hunger artist had to challenge what he did. Gregor's parents watch him and what he does, and he does what they tell him too. He is also working his job because of his parents' debt. This relationship between Gregor and his parents and then the hunger artist and his audience is really interesting to me.
This connection that Gregor and his parents have and the cconnection the hnger artist has with his audience is a little different. Gregor's parents are sort of relying on Gregor, where the hunger artist is relying on his audience.
The metamorphosis is similar to the Judgment because of the need of approval from his father. "If i didn't hold myself back because of my parents, i would have quit long time ago" (12). Gregor has this job because he is working at the benefit of his parents. Not his self. He is living his life in order to satisfy his parents just as George did in "the jUdgement." The relationship is very similar as well because of the Oedipus complex. They are both competing for the mother.
the oedipus complex also leads to a hierarchy in both stories that are very similer. in the judgment his father is the top of the hierarchy. in the metamorphasis his boss is the top his parents are the second and he is last. they both share the fact that the maain cheracter is at the bottom of there hierarchies
The Oedipus complex is a strange thing, the sons feel free once they are free from it, even if it means that they have to be abused by their father. It is quite strange, yet almost inevitable, the love for the mother from the son must come from something deep inside sons.
Like "The Judgement," "The Metamorphosis" involves the Oedipus complex, the fight between father and son over the mother. Both the father and son, in both stories, feel protective over the mother and feel the need to win her affection. This causes tension between the father and son, and their need to get rid of the other. In "The Metamorphosis" as the father sees that his sons appearance is upsetting the mother he turns hostile towards his son and becomes desperate to get rid of him.However, the son still looks up to the father, and admires him even while he is competing with him.
In all of the stories one of the characters is trapped in a place or situation they do not want to be and eventually get untrapped either by dying like in the judgement or by getting on the boat like in the penal colony. I do not know how gregor will get out of the body of the bug or if he will but it seems likely since this is a reoccuring theme in the stories we have read, as are the themes of mixed feelings like resentment, hate, or love, of overbearing or controlling parents (specifically the father), lack of control over situations, and punishment. Religion also comes up in a lot of them too.
The father in this situation has not felt the sympathy or love towards his son like the mother is currently feeling. This is like the Judgement where the father sees his son as evil as opposed to feeling guilty for the way he has been neglected.
"Gregor's father, who up to that point had been relativley composed:...seized the chief clerk's walking stick...began to drive Gregor back into his room by brandishing the walking stick and the paper"(23) Gregors fathers is like Georg's father from The Judgement. They are both calm, until they can't contain their emotions any longer, and they lash out. Like Georg's father, Gregor's father wants to get rid of the problems and frustration that his son has brought about. Also, this passage shows how the people who knew Gregor as a human, have now began to treat him like an animal, although he is the same person inside. This is similiar to the way people view the hunger artist. He has become different than the other people by fasting, and this makes people treat him like an animal. Gregor and the hunger artist are like animals in an exhibit. They are confined to a certain amount of space where visitors come and go, but there are unable to go unwatched.
This is true. Because at the end of the story he is pushed back into his room, which is like a cage, so people won't have to see him any more. The fathers are similar and their relationship and the Oedipus Complex relates well in both of the stories.
In "The Metamorphosis" Gregor is dealing with a strange problem unique to him. He encounters his family and other people and they act according to their roles. Going along with the Oedipus complex. "his father gave him a strong push that was truly a liberating one, and, bleeding profusely, he sailed far into his room." The father cannot let his son take over his wife and must prove his dominance, which is actually good for Gregor because he now knows he must leave. In "In the Penal Colony" the condemned man is also in a peculiar situation, and there are people who want to torture and people who want to help him. The explorer is against it, but since he knows he doesn't have power he doesn't do anything.
ReplyDeleteGregor is a roach in the story because all of his life, his parents have dictated what to do. Even now, when his father is chasing him back into his room, he doesn't stand up to him. Georg is the same way with his father: he can't stand up to him.
DeleteIn this story, the penal colony, and the hunger artist, the main characters want to be understood. "His spirits were brightened by the aplomb and assurance with which their first few intructions had been carried out. He felt included in human society once again..." Gregor wants his family and his boss to not freak out about his current state. In the penal colony, the officer wants everyone to accept his practice. In the hunger artist, he wants people to understand what he is doing.
ReplyDeletethis links to "the judgment" because in both stories there is a link to the oedipus complex. In the judgment it is very clear because the whole story is centered around the father trying to assert his power over the son even after the mom has past away. the metamorphasis hints at it because the father and son fight over the mother but not to the extent of "the judgment". this story is also linked to most of the other stories because of the hierarchy that is evedent within his life. there is a hierarchy also in before the law because each gate keeper is progressivly more powerful.
ReplyDeleteI agree, and also I think that both of these stories relate to the theory about your feelings turning inward on yourself when you realize that they can't work for the society. You change yourself to make you fit in rather than trying to change everybody else.
Delete"The Metamorphosis" is similar to "The Judgment," in that they both have parents that have a dark side, one that consists of not caring for their children's life or whatever he does.
ReplyDeleteThe father in "The Metamorphosis" doesn't care much about the welfare of his son, but only that his son can work to pay off his own debt to the employer. Even after the mother says that Gregor is not well, the father still insists that Gregor open the door. " 'Well, can the gentleman go in to see you, now?' asked the impatient father " (17).
The father of Georg ("The Judgment") is so dry to him, that you could literally put a wet sponge in the room with him, and the sponge would loose moisture. When he walks into his father's room, they start to have a discussion about the windows, in which the father responds dryly.
"But it's unbearably dark in here," he said to himself. "Yes, it is dark isn't it?" his father answered. "You shut the window, too?" "I like it better that way."
His father is shutting Georg out. The sunshine represents Georg, and the curtains represent actions that lead him to dislike his son.
"The Metamophosis" ties into the other Kafka stories we have read because they all have to do with being oppressed from society. In Metamorphosis Gregor says, "If I didn't hold myself back because of my parents, I would have quit long ago." To me this shows how he is really insignificant in his life. This relates to the hunger artist because I think that the parents also represent some kind of an audience, like the one that the hunger artist had to challenge what he did. Gregor's parents watch him and what he does, and he does what they tell him too. He is also working his job because of his parents' debt. This relationship between Gregor and his parents and then the hunger artist and his audience is really interesting to me.
ReplyDeleteThis connection that Gregor and his parents have and the cconnection the hnger artist has with his audience is a little different. Gregor's parents are sort of relying on Gregor, where the hunger artist is relying on his audience.
DeleteThe metamorphosis is similar to the Judgment because of the need of approval from his father. "If i didn't hold myself back because of my parents, i would have quit long time ago" (12). Gregor has this job because he is working at the benefit of his parents. Not his self. He is living his life in order to satisfy his parents just as George did in "the jUdgement." The relationship is very similar as well because of the Oedipus complex. They are both competing for the mother.
ReplyDeletethe oedipus complex also leads to a hierarchy in both stories that are very similer. in the judgment his father is the top of the hierarchy. in the metamorphasis his boss is the top his parents are the second and he is last. they both share the fact that the maain cheracter is at the bottom of there hierarchies
DeleteThe Oedipus complex is a strange thing, the sons feel free once they are free from it, even if it means that they have to be abused by their father. It is quite strange, yet almost inevitable, the love for the mother from the son must come from something deep inside sons.
DeleteLike "The Judgement," "The Metamorphosis" involves the Oedipus complex, the fight between father and son over the mother. Both the father and son, in both stories, feel protective over the mother and feel the need to win her affection. This causes tension between the father and son, and their need to get rid of the other. In "The Metamorphosis" as the father sees that his sons appearance is upsetting the mother he turns hostile towards his son and becomes desperate to get rid of him.However, the son still looks up to the father, and admires him even while he is competing with him.
ReplyDeleteIn all of the stories one of the characters is trapped in a place or situation they do not want to be and eventually get untrapped either by dying like in the judgement or by getting on the boat like in the penal colony. I do not know how gregor will get out of the body of the bug or if he will but it seems likely since this is a reoccuring theme in the stories we have read, as are the themes of mixed feelings like resentment, hate, or love, of overbearing or controlling parents (specifically the father), lack of control over situations, and punishment. Religion also comes up in a lot of them too.
ReplyDeleteThe father in this situation has not felt the sympathy or love towards his son like the mother is currently feeling. This is like the Judgement where the father sees his son as evil as opposed to feeling guilty for the way he has been neglected.
Delete"Gregor's father, who up to that point had been relativley composed:...seized the chief clerk's walking stick...began to drive Gregor back into his room by brandishing the walking stick and the paper"(23) Gregors fathers is like Georg's father from The Judgement. They are both calm, until they can't contain their emotions any longer, and they lash out. Like Georg's father, Gregor's father wants to get rid of the problems and frustration that his son has brought about. Also, this passage shows how the people who knew Gregor as a human, have now began to treat him like an animal, although he is the same person inside. This is similiar to the way people view the hunger artist. He has become different than the other people by fasting, and this makes people treat him like an animal. Gregor and the hunger artist are like animals in an exhibit. They are confined to a certain amount of space where visitors come and go, but there are unable to go unwatched.
ReplyDeleteThis is true. Because at the end of the story he is pushed back into his room, which is like a cage, so people won't have to see him any more. The fathers are similar and their relationship and the Oedipus Complex relates well in both of the stories.
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